• Episode #39:

        Growing and Sustaining Your Network through Many Moves with Clifton Clevenger

        After serving in the Army for 10 years as a personnel administrative assistant and infantryman, Clifton Clevenger transitioned out with a plan to go to school. He ended up meeting his wife, an Army officer, within his first year out. So, Cliff knows what it’s like to be both a transitioned veteran and a military spouse for 16 years and counting. Currently, he co-leads the Hiring Our Heroes Military Spouse Professional Network, Hampton Roads, Norfolk Chapter. Cliff has had to restart 8 times due to his spouse’s relocation (PCS), and he strongly encourages you to continually network and take the time to thoughtfully prepare for the interview questions.

        Lessons Learned:

        • Reach out to others for resume help; don’t try to do it alone.
        • Start networking ASAP. 3-6 months before your retirement or separation is actually late, because it needs to be established before you need your network to work for you.
        • Expand your circle beyond other military personnel, veterans, etc. Learn from civilians who have been doing the job you’re interested in, ideally in the companies you want to work for.
        • If the average person stays in a job for 2-3 years, consider how often you need to rely on your network for your next role.
        • Develop your interviewing skills.
          • Look at the job announcement; it’s like a cheat sheet for an open-book test.
          • For each question or skill listed, come up with your own 30-90 second story that explains how you did that with real numbers, $$$, % improvement, etc.
          • Similar to bullets on your resume, present information in STAR format: Situation-Task-Action-Result.
          • Check out LinkedIn’s “26 Most Common Interview Questions” and record yourself answering those. Learn from the feedback and keep improving your responses.
          • Ask your friends to “mock interview” you. You can try your “Zoom interview” skills and setup.
          • Research the company beyond the mission statement. Determine:
            • What are their strengths?
            • What are their challenges?
            • Who’s the competition?
            • How can you plug in what they need?
          • Remember, you want to show that you’re the best candidate—not the neediest one. Don’t tell them you want the job because you need to make money.
        • Be proactive in reaching out for help. There are so many resources!
        • Military spouse careers often include short terms and great diversity because of the multiple moves.
          • Be prepared to answer “gap in employment” questions, but know that this stigma is beginning to disappear in current hiring trends.
          • You can reframe a “multiple jobs for short terms” question by answering honestly about the priority of your spouse’s career and your commitment to doing your best while you are there.
        • Take the first step and start. You’ll learn along the way.
        • You can connect with Cliff on LinkedIn at:


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